All Weather Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY. Very interesting concept. Very modern. It was a Miminalist design. It was designed to align the highway. You can see that in the postcard. yes, back then Sunrise Highway had 2 lanes each way. Now it is 3-4 lanes each way. Painted postcard. Source: Bill Ketchem on Pinterest.
All Weather Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY. Noticed the two stickers have two different versions. There was a website stating the era wrong that it is 1940s or 1950s. The rink was never opened in those decade. It was opened in 1960. It was a website connecting to eBay which stated in error. Source: eBay.
All Weather Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY. Noticed the two stickers have two different versions. There was a website stating the era wrong that it is 1940s or 1950s. The rink was never opened in those decade. It was opened in 1960. It was a website connecting to eBay which stated in error. Source: ebay.
Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY. About membership. See the name of the owner and rink on the left side. Source: Billboard 10 October 1960. Copyrighted Digitally remastered by Dead-Rinks. Long article rearranged.
Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY. Source: Google.
All Weather Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Hgwy, Copiague, LI, NY
Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY
Roll 'N' Ice 1128 Sunrise Highway, Copiague, Long Island, NY
All Weather Roll 'N' Ice (and Roll 'N' Ice) was quite unusual facility because it functioned as both roller skating rink and ice rink. By the look of the photo. It was built and vertically set their floor plans. One floor for roller skate floor and the other ice skate rink. If that was the case, this should have survived all recessions and downturn fads of skating. Besides that the ice skating remains strong and are found in many towns. For instance, my hometown has no roller rink in Syracuse, NY area. However, there are many ice rinks. Roughly 5 or maybe 6 ice rinks including the AHL Syracuse Crush ice rink in Onondaga County War Memorial. Many roller rinks have converted to ice though. For instance in 2018, Orbit Roller Rink closed but now, it will be reopened as ice rink. Iceland in Long Island did the same years ago.
Architecturally entirely different. It does look very industrious due to the fact it was modern cubist design with two long end to end rows of windows up front. It looks like a pit stop along the highway but it was not a pit stop. it had a very clear sign saying the name of the facility, Roll 'N' Ice. I think I understand why the architect came up with this design. It was representing the lines of the highway where the building was set at. It was to be asymmetrical to each other. It was all about lines that is endless. That was the whole point of the meaning of the rinks, both ice and roller that you can skate non-stop. It was a 3-D perspective of the facility when you look from the highway like a painting but in 3-D form.
They said this was the first of a kind to have a duel rink-ice and roller rinks in same facility. Because of the location was near high school, many kids would walk over to the rink to skate ice or roller but also school trips to the rinks as well.
Internally, I do not know what the interior looked like. I could not even find where the rink was located. In a forum, it did say it was cross the street from a high school by the highway. I found the high school alright and it is next to the middle school. There are numerous of shops and businesses and gas stations in that area. None could resemble the building and none would look like a former car dealer. That Ford dealership closed too after they bought the rink.
Not to be confused with the All Weather Theaters. They had one indoor screen and one outdoor screen drive-in theater. Was it the same owner? It was possible because of the name, "All Weather" was noted. That information about the theater plus the rink was found on Cinemastreasure.org website.
I do not have any information regarding which floor was which. I welcome any informations from former skaters or owner or manager or staff who ever worked at the rink. And photographs too.
This concept would have been awesome for present times because it is financially stable to do so. Unfortunately, the pair of rinks closed in 1979. Someone thinks it became a car dealership. According to Map Google, it is non-existence because most of the area have modern buildings, malls, shopping strips and of course, car dealerships. The location was mentioned by Jack Murphy on Cinemastreasure.org website.
Interesting to note in the photograph that was colored in from a black and white. It was a postcard. Note that the rinks opened in 1960 had 1948 or 49 Mercury automobile and an early 1950s Studebaker in the parking lot along with a 1969 Dodge Challenger (or was it Dart?) in between those antiques of the time.
UPDATE! - 12 March 2022.
I received an email regarding this rink. Here is what he has to say --
I don’t know whether any of my memory of this arena will be of help but thought I would drop you a line.
I remember playing hockey at the Roll n Ice during the summers of 1970 and 1971. I was a 16-17 yr old teenager at the time. We had a summer ice hockey league there. The ice rink was on the main ground floor. I don’t remember the roller skate part of it. (Upstairs?)
It was not regular ice hockey size. It was shorter but it served our purpose for the summer hockey league. Most ice surfaces for rinks are 200’ ft long. This one had to be 30 – 40 feet shorter.
I remember going into the super cold ice rink in the heat of the summer and thinking that it was such a strange ice hockey rink, not only being smaller but in some of the features I remember. For example there were holes/spaces in the boards that contain your ice rink. So all ice hockey ice surfaces are circled/contained by a continuous oval of “boards” about 42” high. Then on top of the boards there is plexiglass. At the Roll n Ice there were two or three areas where the boards weren’t continuous. Which is extremely “weird” and actually unsafe for a hockey rink. Also I don’t think there was an plexiglass above the boards. (whoa. this was weird alright.)
Also, from my recollection the area outside the boards was just straight concrete – no rubber matting for access onto and off the ice.
So that’s what I remember.
Thank you R.N for the information. You dont recall there was a rink? Must be it was around at different time than it was with the ice. Maybe the roller rink part closed for good. The name Roll 'n' Ice was clearly means roller rink and ice rink or had roller skating and ice skating. It is listed here and it is listed at my competitior's website, and it was listed in the old 1990s lists of roller rinks I have so check out the links seen on Link page and scroll down and find the Roll 'n' Ice.
By the way, for your information for a fun fact. It is 5 minutes drive to the infamous Amityville Horror House! Woooo Spooky!
UPDATE! -- 19 May 2022.
I received an email from Ed who worked at the rink in the past. Here is what he has to say. Actually, two emails because I asked him questions. Here is what he has to say -- (edited to combine two emails)
Hi, I worked part time as a skate guard on the ice rink back in the late 1960's. If there is any info that I can offer, please drop me an email. My question is, are there any blogs or websites that skaters from back then , congregate on? I would would like to see if I could find some old friends.
(yes I have questions to ask, Ed. And you answered)...
The roller rink I believe was wood. It was a long time ago. The ice rink was somewhat below ground the office was about 10 steps up from the sidewalk and the roller rink I think was a few step up from the office. The building, I believe was concrete block. Not sure of the dimensions but it was a very long and wide building. The two men that owned it Mr. Peters and Mr. Whelan, were general contractors ( builders ). Their construction company office was just next to the rink building, to the right on a separate lot. Very nice people. The general manager was Mr. G. Real name was George Geshweinder. ( Not sure if I spelled that correctly ) The organ player was set up in the roller rink and they would pipe the music down to the ice rink. Each rinks has a skate shop and a food concession counter. It was really a nice place to be. Everyone had a fun time. If you have any other question,, drop me an email. Hope my info was of some interest to you. Thanks,. Ed
I will do ask eventually. Thank you and I take you did not have dimensions for the rinks. Or the building. Its okay. Thank you, Ed!
Interior:
Two storys. One for each type of rink. First floor was ice rink two steps down from main doors that it was about 85 Feet wide by 160-170 Feet long. There were some safety concern at the time according to R.N. Please read above in italic. Then there was more. Or read just next--
It was not regular ice hockey size. It was shorter but it served our purpose for the summer hockey league. Most ice surfaces for rinks are 200’ ft long. This one had to be 30 – 40 feet shorter.
I remember going into the super cold ice rink in the heat of the summer and thinking that it was such a strange ice hockey rink, not only being smaller but in some of the features I remember. For example there were holes/spaces in the boards that contain your ice rink. So all ice hockey ice surfaces are circled/contained by a continuous oval of “boards” about 42” high. Then on top of the boards there is plexiglass. At the Roll n Ice there were two or three areas where the boards weren’t continuous. Which is extremely “weird” and actually unsafe for a hockey rink. Also I don’t think there was an plexiglass above the boards. (whoa. this was weird alright.)
Also, from my recollection the area outside the boards was just straight concrete – no rubber matting for access onto and off the ice.
Roller rink he said he does not remember if there was a roller rink but perhaps it ran for a short time? I do not know. Anybody?
Well, Ed answered it. It was upstairs. 10 steps up from main door (Ed) (and the two steps down to ice. making that 12 steps which is normal for 8'-6" or higher high floor to floor as I understood architecture (Architecture Residential Drawing and Design, by Clois E. Kicklighter, 1981, pages 254-255). From the doors to upstairs were likely less than 8 feet.
Likely it was 8 feet high from the door entrance to upstairs plus 16 inches stepdown. Making it 9'-6".
Since I have no idea what the actual floor to floor height but given a ball park. That is pretty low for an ice rink below the roller rink floor. That amount would be about 8' floor to floor (Floor to ceiling would be approximately which is pretty low.) If you are sitting at home, look up the ceiling. That would be about 8 Feet high. That is pretty low.
Exterior:
Appears to be very industrious due to modern cubist design with two long end to end rows of windows up front. It looks like a pit stop along the highway but it was not a pit stop. It had a very clear sign saying the name of the facility, Roll 'N' Ice. It was representing the lines of the highway where the building was set at. It was to be asymmetrical to each other. It was all about lines that is endless. That was the whole point of the meaning of the rinks, both ice and roller that you can skate non-stop. It was a 3-D perspective of the facility when you look from the highway like a painting but in 3-D form.
Stats:
Ice -
Rink Size: Not an NHL rink size, said to be 30 to 40 feet shorter (comes to 160 to 170 feet). Roughly 85' x 160-170' ICE Floor: Ice.
Floor Layout: Ice Hockey format.
Roller-
Rink Size: N/A. Floor: Wood (Maple?)
Floor Layout: Ice Hockey format.
Building Size: N/A. Built: N/A.
Type of Building: Free-Span Steel Two-story Cinderblock Building.
Roof: Flat
Acres: N/A
Operated: 1960 to 1979.
Reason for Closure: N/A
Wanted: Interior of the facility and more information. Also exact location of the rink.
Sources:
Pinterest
Billboard - 10 October 1960
Cinemastreasures.org
Email - R.N. (12 March 2022).
Email - E. H. 18 and 19 May 2022.
Worth to visit:
Just a car dealership. If you want to see the inside, pretend to look into a car buying but dont waste those sales people's time. Instead, want to drive by and see this house: Amityville Horrior House?
Note: All Weather Roll 'N' Ice is practically another name for Roll 'N' Ice. (According to Billboard, October 10, 1960 and picture).
Date of Issue: January 2019.
Updated: 12 March 2022.
For Office only: 5.
© Dead Rinks. All Rights Reserved. Jn 3: 3-17.
Architecturally entirely different. It does look very industrious due to the fact it was modern cubist design with two long end to end rows of windows up front. It looks like a pit stop along the highway but it was not a pit stop. it had a very clear sign saying the name of the facility, Roll 'N' Ice. I think I understand why the architect came up with this design. It was representing the lines of the highway where the building was set at. It was to be asymmetrical to each other. It was all about lines that is endless. That was the whole point of the meaning of the rinks, both ice and roller that you can skate non-stop. It was a 3-D perspective of the facility when you look from the highway like a painting but in 3-D form.
They said this was the first of a kind to have a duel rink-ice and roller rinks in same facility. Because of the location was near high school, many kids would walk over to the rink to skate ice or roller but also school trips to the rinks as well.
Internally, I do not know what the interior looked like. I could not even find where the rink was located. In a forum, it did say it was cross the street from a high school by the highway. I found the high school alright and it is next to the middle school. There are numerous of shops and businesses and gas stations in that area. None could resemble the building and none would look like a former car dealer. That Ford dealership closed too after they bought the rink.
Not to be confused with the All Weather Theaters. They had one indoor screen and one outdoor screen drive-in theater. Was it the same owner? It was possible because of the name, "All Weather" was noted. That information about the theater plus the rink was found on Cinemastreasure.org website.
I do not have any information regarding which floor was which. I welcome any informations from former skaters or owner or manager or staff who ever worked at the rink. And photographs too.
This concept would have been awesome for present times because it is financially stable to do so. Unfortunately, the pair of rinks closed in 1979. Someone thinks it became a car dealership. According to Map Google, it is non-existence because most of the area have modern buildings, malls, shopping strips and of course, car dealerships. The location was mentioned by Jack Murphy on Cinemastreasure.org website.
Interesting to note in the photograph that was colored in from a black and white. It was a postcard. Note that the rinks opened in 1960 had 1948 or 49 Mercury automobile and an early 1950s Studebaker in the parking lot along with a 1969 Dodge Challenger (or was it Dart?) in between those antiques of the time.
UPDATE! - 12 March 2022.
I received an email regarding this rink. Here is what he has to say --
I don’t know whether any of my memory of this arena will be of help but thought I would drop you a line.
I remember playing hockey at the Roll n Ice during the summers of 1970 and 1971. I was a 16-17 yr old teenager at the time. We had a summer ice hockey league there. The ice rink was on the main ground floor. I don’t remember the roller skate part of it. (Upstairs?)
It was not regular ice hockey size. It was shorter but it served our purpose for the summer hockey league. Most ice surfaces for rinks are 200’ ft long. This one had to be 30 – 40 feet shorter.
I remember going into the super cold ice rink in the heat of the summer and thinking that it was such a strange ice hockey rink, not only being smaller but in some of the features I remember. For example there were holes/spaces in the boards that contain your ice rink. So all ice hockey ice surfaces are circled/contained by a continuous oval of “boards” about 42” high. Then on top of the boards there is plexiglass. At the Roll n Ice there were two or three areas where the boards weren’t continuous. Which is extremely “weird” and actually unsafe for a hockey rink. Also I don’t think there was an plexiglass above the boards. (whoa. this was weird alright.)
Also, from my recollection the area outside the boards was just straight concrete – no rubber matting for access onto and off the ice.
So that’s what I remember.
Thank you R.N for the information. You dont recall there was a rink? Must be it was around at different time than it was with the ice. Maybe the roller rink part closed for good. The name Roll 'n' Ice was clearly means roller rink and ice rink or had roller skating and ice skating. It is listed here and it is listed at my competitior's website, and it was listed in the old 1990s lists of roller rinks I have so check out the links seen on Link page and scroll down and find the Roll 'n' Ice.
By the way, for your information for a fun fact. It is 5 minutes drive to the infamous Amityville Horror House! Woooo Spooky!
UPDATE! -- 19 May 2022.
I received an email from Ed who worked at the rink in the past. Here is what he has to say. Actually, two emails because I asked him questions. Here is what he has to say -- (edited to combine two emails)
Hi, I worked part time as a skate guard on the ice rink back in the late 1960's. If there is any info that I can offer, please drop me an email. My question is, are there any blogs or websites that skaters from back then , congregate on? I would would like to see if I could find some old friends.
(yes I have questions to ask, Ed. And you answered)...
The roller rink I believe was wood. It was a long time ago. The ice rink was somewhat below ground the office was about 10 steps up from the sidewalk and the roller rink I think was a few step up from the office. The building, I believe was concrete block. Not sure of the dimensions but it was a very long and wide building. The two men that owned it Mr. Peters and Mr. Whelan, were general contractors ( builders ). Their construction company office was just next to the rink building, to the right on a separate lot. Very nice people. The general manager was Mr. G. Real name was George Geshweinder. ( Not sure if I spelled that correctly ) The organ player was set up in the roller rink and they would pipe the music down to the ice rink. Each rinks has a skate shop and a food concession counter. It was really a nice place to be. Everyone had a fun time. If you have any other question,, drop me an email. Hope my info was of some interest to you. Thanks,. Ed
I will do ask eventually. Thank you and I take you did not have dimensions for the rinks. Or the building. Its okay. Thank you, Ed!
Interior:
Two storys. One for each type of rink. First floor was ice rink two steps down from main doors that it was about 85 Feet wide by 160-170 Feet long. There were some safety concern at the time according to R.N. Please read above in italic. Then there was more. Or read just next--
It was not regular ice hockey size. It was shorter but it served our purpose for the summer hockey league. Most ice surfaces for rinks are 200’ ft long. This one had to be 30 – 40 feet shorter.
I remember going into the super cold ice rink in the heat of the summer and thinking that it was such a strange ice hockey rink, not only being smaller but in some of the features I remember. For example there were holes/spaces in the boards that contain your ice rink. So all ice hockey ice surfaces are circled/contained by a continuous oval of “boards” about 42” high. Then on top of the boards there is plexiglass. At the Roll n Ice there were two or three areas where the boards weren’t continuous. Which is extremely “weird” and actually unsafe for a hockey rink. Also I don’t think there was an plexiglass above the boards. (whoa. this was weird alright.)
Also, from my recollection the area outside the boards was just straight concrete – no rubber matting for access onto and off the ice.
Roller rink he said he does not remember if there was a roller rink but perhaps it ran for a short time? I do not know. Anybody?
Well, Ed answered it. It was upstairs. 10 steps up from main door (Ed) (and the two steps down to ice. making that 12 steps which is normal for 8'-6" or higher high floor to floor as I understood architecture (Architecture Residential Drawing and Design, by Clois E. Kicklighter, 1981, pages 254-255). From the doors to upstairs were likely less than 8 feet.
Likely it was 8 feet high from the door entrance to upstairs plus 16 inches stepdown. Making it 9'-6".
Since I have no idea what the actual floor to floor height but given a ball park. That is pretty low for an ice rink below the roller rink floor. That amount would be about 8' floor to floor (Floor to ceiling would be approximately which is pretty low.) If you are sitting at home, look up the ceiling. That would be about 8 Feet high. That is pretty low.
Exterior:
Appears to be very industrious due to modern cubist design with two long end to end rows of windows up front. It looks like a pit stop along the highway but it was not a pit stop. It had a very clear sign saying the name of the facility, Roll 'N' Ice. It was representing the lines of the highway where the building was set at. It was to be asymmetrical to each other. It was all about lines that is endless. That was the whole point of the meaning of the rinks, both ice and roller that you can skate non-stop. It was a 3-D perspective of the facility when you look from the highway like a painting but in 3-D form.
Stats:
Ice -
Rink Size: Not an NHL rink size, said to be 30 to 40 feet shorter (comes to 160 to 170 feet). Roughly 85' x 160-170' ICE Floor: Ice.
Floor Layout: Ice Hockey format.
Roller-
Rink Size: N/A. Floor: Wood (Maple?)
Floor Layout: Ice Hockey format.
Building Size: N/A. Built: N/A.
Type of Building: Free-Span Steel Two-story Cinderblock Building.
Roof: Flat
Acres: N/A
Operated: 1960 to 1979.
Reason for Closure: N/A
Wanted: Interior of the facility and more information. Also exact location of the rink.
Sources:
Billboard - 10 October 1960
Cinemastreasures.org
Email - R.N. (12 March 2022).
Email - E. H. 18 and 19 May 2022.
Worth to visit:
Just a car dealership. If you want to see the inside, pretend to look into a car buying but dont waste those sales people's time. Instead, want to drive by and see this house: Amityville Horrior House?
Note: All Weather Roll 'N' Ice is practically another name for Roll 'N' Ice. (According to Billboard, October 10, 1960 and picture).
Date of Issue: January 2019.
Updated: 12 March 2022.
For Office only: 5.
© Dead Rinks. All Rights Reserved. Jn 3: 3-17.